Talk:Patriarchy

Irrelevant info

@Sangdeboeuf The content about Sima Bahouse's statements focuses on poverty alleviation, economic policies, more relevant to discussions on economic inequality and development. It does not directly address the structural dynamics of patriarchy, within that framework, which is the central focus of the article. It is immaterial and out-of-scope for this article. 182.183.54.110 (talk) 16:18, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Is this related to matrimony?

Given that the word patriarchy by wiktionary definition means "father rules"^{1, 3} and the word matrimony means "mother obligation"⁵ they seem to both refer to the same gender role system no? Is there such as patrimony in matriarchy as well?

1: Wiktionary:patriarchy
2: Wiktionary:matriarchy
3: From source 2.. "árkhō, 'I rule'"
4: Wiktionary:matrimony
5: From source 4.. "from māter ('mother') + -mōnium ('obligation')" Ybllaw (talk) 11:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Unclear intro

The very first sentence is being unclear: "Patriarchy is a social system in which men typically hold authority and responsibility while also excluding women from it." What does "it" refer to? "Social system", or "authority and responsibility". It would be nonsensical to say that women are excluded from the social system, because the system has to include the ones over whom authority is had and for whom responsibility is taken. But "it" is singular so grammatically it does not fit with "authority and responsibility" (English is not my first language so I could be wrong here). AndersThorseth (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Men have the power or some men have power?

Is there a consensus if its "in a patriarchy men have the power" or "in a patriarchy the people with power are men"? Its two very different statements with very different meanings. AndersThorseth (talk) 15:18, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Suggest to remove paragraph

I would suggest removing the paragraph

"Although patriarchy exists within the scientific atmosphere,[clarification needed] "the periods over which women would have been at a physiological disadvantage in participation in hunting through being at a late stage of pregnancy or early stage of child-rearing would have been short". During the time of the nomads, patriarchy still grew with power. Lewontin and others argue that such biological determinism unjustly limits women. In his study, he states women behave a certain way not because they are biologically inclined to, but rather because they are judged by "how well they conform to the stereotypical local image of femininity"."

The paragraph seems like it perhaps made sense once but have now been edited, to be nonsensical. It seems to suggest that hunting tribes were acting unjust and guided by biological determinism, without stating it outright. But somehow I don't think that was the point of the author. So I suggest to just delete it. AndersThorseth (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

The Gender Inequality Today section needs attention

It barely makes sense. I would edit it but I don't know what is trying to be said. Guindufan (talk) 03:12, 15 February 2025 (UTC)